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    "text": ">> Hey everybody."
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  {
    "startMs": 13880,
    "text": "Um"
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  {
    "startMs": 14960,
    "text": "my name's Alex Hancock. Today I'm going"
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    "text": "to talk about a universal remote control"
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  {
    "startMs": 18280,
    "text": "for AI."
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  {
    "startMs": 19360,
    "text": "And before I start, I just want to say"
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  {
    "startMs": 20480,
    "text": "the previous speaker said that MCP"
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  {
    "startMs": 21960,
    "text": "client maintainers haven't implemented"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 23600,
    "text": "support for tasks because they're smart."
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  {
    "startMs": 25880,
    "text": "I'm an MCP client maintainer. I can tell"
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  {
    "startMs": 27640,
    "text": "you it's just because I'm lazy. I"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 29320,
    "text": "haven't done it."
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  {
    "startMs": 30960,
    "text": "Um"
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    "startMs": 32599,
    "text": "Okay. So, a little bit about me before"
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  {
    "startMs": 34440,
    "text": "we start. I am a software engineer at"
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    "startMs": 36280,
    "text": "Block, which is the parent company of"
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  {
    "startMs": 38400,
    "text": "Cash App and Square and Title. We have a"
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  {
    "startMs": 41080,
    "text": "few different things going on now. Um"
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  {
    "startMs": 43800,
    "text": "and I've worked there for a long time. I"
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  {
    "startMs": 44720,
    "text": "worked on Square product stuff and Cash"
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  {
    "startMs": 46240,
    "text": "App stuff, but I've been doing open"
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    "startMs": 47720,
    "text": "source AI for the last couple years."
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  {
    "startMs": 49920,
    "text": "Specifically, I work on this open source"
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  {
    "startMs": 51920,
    "text": "harness project called Goose, which"
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  {
    "startMs": 54400,
    "text": "started as an internal project at Block."
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  {
    "startMs": 57200,
    "text": "Yeah, some Goose fans out there. And"
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    "startMs": 59120,
    "text": "then uh yeah, we open sourced it and we"
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  {
    "startMs": 61400,
    "text": "donated it to the Linux Foundation. So,"
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  {
    "startMs": 63480,
    "text": "now the IP is there, but we still lots"
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  {
    "startMs": 65920,
    "text": "of us from Block still work on it."
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  {
    "startMs": 67760,
    "text": "Um I'm also a maintainer of MCP, the"
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  {
    "startMs": 70560,
    "text": "Model Context Protocol. I work on the"
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  {
    "startMs": 72680,
    "text": "Rust SDK for that project. And more"
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  {
    "startMs": 75360,
    "text": "recently, I've also started some work on"
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  {
    "startMs": 78160,
    "text": "ACP, the Agent Client Protocol, which is"
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  {
    "startMs": 80680,
    "text": "what I'm going to talk about today."
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    "startMs": 83080,
    "text": "So, I think I think we have an issue"
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    "text": "with harnesses that I want to I want to"
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  {
    "startMs": 87320,
    "text": "try to put to you all today,"
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  {
    "startMs": 89080,
    "text": "uh propose to you all today as a problem"
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    "startMs": 91320,
    "text": "and then and then recommend a a"
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    "startMs": 93320,
    "text": "solution."
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    "startMs": 94440,
    "text": "So, what I've been noticing recently"
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    "startMs": 97560,
    "text": "is that we've got lots of great"
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    "startMs": 98640,
    "text": "harnesses out there, right? There are"
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    "text": "ones from the labs, there are one from"
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  {
    "startMs": 102000,
    "text": "ones from different companies, there's"
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    "text": "lots of open standards-based ones."
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    "startMs": 105760,
    "text": "Um but I noticed that the interface to"
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    "startMs": 107840,
    "text": "them"
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    "startMs": 108760,
    "text": "is often custom or bespoke. And in in"
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    "startMs": 111520,
    "text": "the worst case, it's like you might have"
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  {
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    "text": "some harnesses where there's literally"
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    "text": "only one client application you can use"
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    "startMs": 116800,
    "text": "to control that harness, right? And I"
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    "startMs": 120320,
    "text": "think this has a couple issues with it,"
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    "startMs": 121720,
    "text": "but the analogy that I'll make with the"
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    "startMs": 123560,
    "text": "web is it would be like if you had to"
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    "text": "use one browser or a"
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    "text": "one given protocol to connect to a to"
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  {
    "startMs": 131240,
    "text": "every website, right? That just wouldn't"
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  {
    "startMs": 132920,
    "text": "work. You wouldn't have something like"
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  {
    "startMs": 134360,
    "text": "the open web if if that were the reality"
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  {
    "startMs": 137640,
    "text": "with browsers. And so I think we can do"
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  {
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    "text": "better."
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  {
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    "text": "And the thing about standards by finding"
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  {
    "startMs": 142600,
    "text": "a standard and the thing about standards"
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  {
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    "text": "is that they create ecosystems and"
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  {
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    "text": "markets."
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  {
    "startMs": 147800,
    "text": "And I would argue that in the agentic AI"
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  {
    "startMs": 150000,
    "text": "space, we have a good standard for the"
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  {
    "startMs": 153840,
    "text": "agent going out and doing things, right?"
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  {
    "startMs": 156280,
    "text": "Calling tools, taking actions in other"
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  {
    "startMs": 158240,
    "text": "systems, reading resources, reading"
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  {
    "startMs": 160000,
    "text": "data. We've all benefited as a community"
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  {
    "startMs": 162880,
    "text": "from having MCP."
  },
  {
    "startMs": 164720,
    "text": "Right? And the most powerful thing about"
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  {
    "startMs": 166400,
    "text": "MCP is not anything about MCP itself,"
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  {
    "startMs": 170040,
    "text": "but it's that everyone uses MCP."
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  {
    "startMs": 172520,
    "text": "And that's why we have, you know,"
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  {
    "startMs": 173880,
    "text": "thousands or tens of thousands of"
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  {
    "startMs": 175560,
    "text": "servers around the world and all the"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 177160,
    "text": "agents can connect to them and go and do"
  },
  {
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    "text": "things in those other systems."
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  {
    "startMs": 182400,
    "text": "I would say that we don't yet have a"
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  {
    "startMs": 184280,
    "text": "good solution or a standard for client"
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    "startMs": 188200,
    "text": "software to tell agents what to do."
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  {
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    "text": "Giving it tasks, telling it what to work"
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  {
    "startMs": 193840,
    "text": "on and getting updates."
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  {
    "startMs": 195800,
    "text": "And so"
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  {
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    "text": "I'm going to put forward an option today"
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  {
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    "text": "that I think is a good option that that"
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  {
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    "text": "we on our team have been working on and"
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  {
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    "text": "we think is a good a good solution in"
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  {
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    "text": "the open standards space."
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    "startMs": 207600,
    "text": "And this is ACP, so agent client"
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    "startMs": 209519,
    "text": "protocol"
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    "text": "is the name of this project and it came"
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    "text": "from the editor companies. It came from"
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    "text": "like if you've used the Zed text editor"
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    "text": "or you've used any of JetBrains"
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    "text": "products, the Zed folks and the"
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    "startMs": 220680,
    "text": "JetBrains JetBrains folks teamed up and"
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    "text": "proposed a standard for"
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    "text": "um clients to be able to control"
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    "text": "harnesses. And it makes sense if you put"
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    "text": "yourself in their shoes, right? What"
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    "text": "they wanted to be able to do is write a"
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    "text": "single high quality client"
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    "text": "implementation in an editor, maybe in"
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    "text": "Zed or in IntelliJ or something like"
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    "text": "that, and be able to control any harness"
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    "text": "by with that single client"
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    "text": "implementation, sending tasks, getting"
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    "text": "results back,"
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    "text": "seeing what files are being edited, etc."
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  {
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    "text": "It makes a ton of sense if you put"
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  {
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    "text": "yourself in their shoes, right? But we"
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  {
    "startMs": 251560,
    "text": "saw this on the Goose team, and we think"
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  {
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    "text": "that there is a much broader utility"
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    "text": "than just editors, right? So it's a"
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  {
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    "text": "it's it's relatively neutral and it"
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  {
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    "text": "doesn't have many editor specific"
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    "text": "features. And so we think that this can"
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  {
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    "text": "can go to a be spread to a wider range"
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    "text": "of client software."
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    "text": "To go into a little bit more depth about"
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    "text": "ACP's design and and what you can do"
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    "text": "with it,"
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    "text": "it lets you establish connections"
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    "text": "that the client software wants to send."
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    "text": "The agent can then respond to those with"
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    "startMs": 296040,
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    "startMs": 297240,
    "text": "uh more images or audio, text, etc., or"
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    "startMs": 300800,
    "text": "updates about what's going on. So like,"
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    "startMs": 302760,
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    "startMs": 306040,
    "text": "was called and what the metadata was."
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  {
    "startMs": 308200,
    "text": "Um and it can also send things like"
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    "startMs": 310560,
    "text": "permission requests, so that if the"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 312480,
    "text": "client software needs to show the user,"
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  {
    "startMs": 314640,
    "text": "you know, \"Should I do this tool call?"
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  {
    "startMs": 316440,
    "text": "Yes or no?\" It can go over this uh"
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  {
    "startMs": 319440,
    "text": "this protocol. And it's it's pretty"
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  {
    "startMs": 321560,
    "text": "simple in its design. Uh it uses JSON"
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  {
    "startMs": 324160,
    "text": "RPC messages, and the thing we like"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 326040,
    "text": "about it most is that it's extensible as"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 328120,
    "text": "well, so you're not limited to just"
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    "text": "what's in the vanilla protocol. You can"
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    "startMs": 332000,
    "text": "add custom methods. So the"
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    "startMs": 334680,
    "text": "the convention is you put an underscore,"
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    "startMs": 337200,
    "text": "and then you start to put your custom"
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    "text": "methods. And the thing I like about this"
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    "startMs": 340320,
    "text": "is that if enough harness projects or"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 342200,
    "text": "client projects adopt this,"
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  {
    "startMs": 344080,
    "text": "we can start to see what we're all doing"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 345840,
    "text": "that's the same,"
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  {
    "startMs": 347120,
    "text": "right? Like if the Codex team has some"
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  {
    "startMs": 349120,
    "text": "custom methods, the Goose team has some"
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  {
    "startMs": 350600,
    "text": "custom methods,"
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  {
    "startMs": 352560,
    "text": "uh the client team has some custom"
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  {
    "startMs": 353880,
    "text": "methods, whoever, we can see what"
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  {
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    "text": "emerges in the in the ecosystem and what"
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  {
    "startMs": 358400,
    "text": "makes sense to get on a standards track"
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    "startMs": 360640,
    "text": "and bring into the protocol itself so"
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  {
    "startMs": 362640,
    "text": "that this is sort of shaped by usage and"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 364440,
    "text": "shaped by the community."
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  {
    "startMs": 366400,
    "text": "Um I'm going to do a demo"
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  {
    "startMs": 368920,
    "text": "of a standard IO version of this. So,"
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  {
    "startMs": 372200,
    "text": "I'm going to open Zed and I just have a"
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  {
    "startMs": 374640,
    "text": "really simple project here"
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  {
    "startMs": 377440,
    "text": "where I'll say, \"Tell me about this"
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  {
    "startMs": 379040,
    "text": "project.\" And so, this is a single HTML"
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    "text": "file."
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  {
    "startMs": 382800,
    "text": "So, you can see I was able to type my"
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    "startMs": 384120,
    "text": "query into Zed and this is the agent in"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 386760,
    "text": "play here is Goose, so it's using"
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    "startMs": 388360,
    "text": "Goose's ACP interface."
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  {
    "startMs": 390480,
    "text": "And it's you can see it's like sending"
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    "startMs": 391880,
    "text": "text back, it's sending tool call"
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    "startMs": 393480,
    "text": "information back"
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    "startMs": 395120,
    "text": "um about what it read and what it did"
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    "startMs": 397080,
    "text": "and then it found, you know, that it's a"
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    "startMs": 398600,
    "text": "single HTML file and then explained it."
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  {
    "startMs": 401040,
    "text": "And I'll do another"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 402760,
    "text": "I'll do another one. This is one from a"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 404919,
    "text": "company called Poolside AI."
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  {
    "startMs": 407480,
    "text": "Uh"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 408360,
    "text": "I'll say, \"Tell me about this project.\""
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    "startMs": 410600,
    "text": "In the same project. And so, this is a"
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    "text": "terminal-based client getting exactly"
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    "text": "the same experience from the same agent,"
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    "startMs": 416680,
    "text": "one implementation on the harness side,"
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    "startMs": 419080,
    "text": "and you can now use any client. Right?"
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    "startMs": 421560,
    "text": "And so, you can see it did the same"
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    "text": "thing. It showed me"
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    "startMs": 427560,
    "text": "streaming in a summary."
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  {
    "startMs": 429320,
    "text": "Um"
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    "startMs": 430560,
    "text": "So, that's a basic demo showing two"
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    "startMs": 431960,
    "text": "clients talking to the same agent"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 435200,
    "text": "uh over standard IO locally in this"
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    "text": "case."
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    "startMs": 438240,
    "text": "But local obviously isn't enough, right?"
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  {
    "startMs": 440240,
    "text": "If you want this to take off, you have"
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    "text": "to be able to do remote as well. Agents"
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    "text": "are going to be running in the cloud."
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    "text": "And so, when we came to this project, we"
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    "text": "saw that it did not have remote support"
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  {
    "startMs": 448800,
    "text": "yet. So, we specified an HTTP transport."
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  {
    "startMs": 452160,
    "text": "There's an HTTP version and there's a"
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  {
    "startMs": 453760,
    "text": "websocket upgrade. And so now, the"
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    "startMs": 456120,
    "text": "messages are the same, the protocol"
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  {
    "startMs": 458040,
    "text": "semantics are the same, but there's a"
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    "text": "new transport that is just landing now"
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    "text": "that enables remote."
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    "text": "And"
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    "startMs": 465080,
    "text": "the way we think about this on the Goose"
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  {
    "startMs": 467120,
    "text": "team, the agentic stack, is there's sort"
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  {
    "startMs": 468840,
    "text": "of these four important components,"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 470400,
    "text": "right? You have the client,"
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    "startMs": 472200,
    "text": "which is like the app that the user is"
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    "startMs": 473760,
    "text": "using or a headless app running"
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    "startMs": 475760,
    "text": "somewhere on a machine. There's the"
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    "startMs": 477600,
    "text": "harness, which is the program that"
  },
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    "text": "implements the tool calling loop."
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    "startMs": 481440,
    "text": "There are the tools themselves. This"
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    "text": "often MCP. And then there's the model,"
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  {
    "startMs": 485880,
    "text": "right? And if you do a remote transport"
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    "text": "for the agent client protocol,"
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    "text": "and MCP has remote transport for tool"
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    "text": "and the models have kind of all had"
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    "startMs": 525080,
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    "startMs": 529440,
    "text": "easy it is to create clients for this. I"
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    "startMs": 531240,
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    "startMs": 541000,
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  {
    "startMs": 545920,
    "text": "instructions for what to do uh remotely."
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    "startMs": 548760,
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  {
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    "startMs": 579760,
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    "startMs": 581720,
    "text": "terminal based things, like there's a"
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    "text": "proliferation."
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    "text": "some interoperability going here because"
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  {
    "startMs": 592520,
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    "startMs": 596400,
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    "startMs": 602360,
    "text": "company or a set of clients from a"
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    "startMs": 605560,
    "text": "company you could customize like a white"
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    "text": "client have it work with all the"
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    "text": "new category here,"
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  {
    "startMs": 613840,
    "text": "we're going to see quality of the"
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    "startMs": 615080,
    "text": "clients go up, right? Because any"
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    "startMs": 616880,
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    "startMs": 620880,
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    "startMs": 624360,
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    "startMs": 627920,
    "text": "like overall I think this should drive"
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    "startMs": 629360,
    "text": "up uh"
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    "startMs": 630920,
    "text": "the user experience of using AI."
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  {
    "startMs": 633320,
    "text": "That's what I've got today. Thank you"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 634520,
    "text": "very much. And if you want to chat with"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 636360,
    "text": "me, find me after or send me an email."
  },
  {
    "startMs": 639680,
    "text": "Um happy to get you plugged into this"
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    "startMs": 641280,
    "text": "work."
  },
  {
    "startMs": 642600,
    "text": "Thank you."
  },
  {
    "startMs": 657627,
    "text": ">> [music]"
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