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    "text": ">> Hello."
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  {
    "startMs": 26600,
    "text": "I was at a wedding this weekend"
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    "text": "and it was in New York and there were a"
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  {
    "startMs": 31400,
    "text": "bunch of trendy people there"
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    "text": "and uh I I told I was talking to someone"
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  {
    "startMs": 36200,
    "text": "who I'd never met before and uh I told"
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  {
    "startMs": 38600,
    "text": "him I was prepping for this presentation"
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  {
    "startMs": 40640,
    "text": "and he was like, \"Oh, that's cool. Like,"
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  {
    "startMs": 41960,
    "text": "what what's the conference about?\" And I"
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  {
    "startMs": 43880,
    "text": "said it was about AI engineering. And I"
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  {
    "startMs": 46600,
    "text": "could just see his eyes glaze over and"
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    "startMs": 49200,
    "text": "he started like looking behind me to"
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    "startMs": 51080,
    "text": "find the next person to talk to. And I'm"
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  {
    "startMs": 53640,
    "text": "it's like so cool to actually be in a"
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  {
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    "text": "room full of people who actually want to"
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    "text": "hear about this stuff."
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    "startMs": 57800,
    "text": "So, I I I I'm very excited to be here."
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  {
    "startMs": 60160,
    "text": "Um I am the co-founder of Conductor. Um"
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    "text": "has anyone here used Conductor?"
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  {
    "startMs": 65440,
    "text": "Okay, nice. Nice. Okay, cool. So, uh"
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  {
    "startMs": 69400,
    "text": "uh for those who don't know, uh"
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    "text": "Conductor is a desktop app for managing"
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    "text": "a team of coding agents all at the same"
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  {
    "startMs": 74880,
    "text": "time. So, instead of having a bunch of"
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    "startMs": 76680,
    "text": "terminal windows for your Cloud Codes,"
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    "startMs": 78480,
    "text": "your Code Accesses, or your uh whatever"
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  {
    "startMs": 81240,
    "text": "uh coding agent, you have one interface"
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    "text": "to manage them all."
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    "startMs": 84480,
    "text": "And one of the really cool things about"
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    "startMs": 86480,
    "text": "building Conductor has been that I've"
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    "startMs": 88600,
    "text": "seen a lot of the best builders up"
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    "startMs": 91040,
    "text": "close. I've like watched their workflow,"
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    "startMs": 92800,
    "text": "I've seen how they work, I've seen the"
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    "text": "things they do do and the things that"
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    "text": "they avoid doing. And so, I thought I"
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    "text": "would compile a bunch of the principles"
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    "text": "um that I've seen the best engineers use"
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    "text": "um and give them to you all."
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  {
    "startMs": 104840,
    "text": "Um"
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  {
    "startMs": 105960,
    "text": "so, here's what Conductor looks like."
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  {
    "startMs": 108440,
    "text": "Uh can you can you guys see this?"
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    "startMs": 110560,
    "text": "Okay, nice. Okay. So, here's what"
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    "text": "Conductor looks like. Um"
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    "startMs": 114240,
    "text": "and here are my principles for being the"
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    "text": "fastest builder in your organization."
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    "text": "So, let's start with"
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    "startMs": 121920,
    "text": "number one, stay near the frontier."
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    "text": "Staying near the frontier means you are"
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    "text": "always trying the latest things,"
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    "text": "basically the day they come out. Uh it"
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    "text": "means that when uh uh ultra code comes"
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    "text": "out, you're trying it. It means that"
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    "text": "when uh uh slash go comes out, you're"
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    "text": "giving it a go. Um it's really important"
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    "text": "to stay near the frontier um for a few"
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  {
    "startMs": 144600,
    "text": "reasons. Um if you are doing your own"
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    "text": "startup, then staying near the frontier"
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  {
    "startMs": 149000,
    "text": "means that you will um come up with lots"
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    "text": "of new ideas for what you should"
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    "startMs": 152360,
    "text": "actually be building. Um and this"
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  {
    "startMs": 153959,
    "text": "literally happened to us. We were"
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    "text": "building a totally different app called"
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    "text": "Chorus. Um"
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    "text": "but we started using We were such power"
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    "startMs": 160680,
    "text": "users of cloud code back in February of"
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  {
    "startMs": 163040,
    "text": "last year that we uh started building"
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  {
    "startMs": 165760,
    "text": "our whole workflow around cloud code,"
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  {
    "startMs": 167520,
    "text": "and we started cloning our repo five"
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  {
    "startMs": 169000,
    "text": "times, and then we discovered work"
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  {
    "startMs": 170360,
    "text": "trees, and then bit by bit we had built"
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  {
    "startMs": 172840,
    "text": "conductor as an internal tool. And we"
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  {
    "startMs": 174520,
    "text": "couldn't have figured that out if we uh"
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  {
    "startMs": 176560,
    "text": "weren't staying near the frontier."
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    "startMs": 178320,
    "text": "And if you're not doing a startup, you"
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  {
    "startMs": 180120,
    "text": "should be the person at your company who"
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  {
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    "text": "always knows what the latest uh the"
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  {
    "startMs": 184680,
    "text": "latest workflows are. Um it used to be"
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    "startMs": 187360,
    "text": "that you could just kind of like use"
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    "startMs": 189800,
    "text": "your social graph and the information"
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    "text": "that was important about the best"
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    "startMs": 193360,
    "text": "workflows to use would trickle down to"
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  {
    "startMs": 194840,
    "text": "you. But things just like move way too"
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  {
    "startMs": 196440,
    "text": "fast now. You're You're always going to"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 197920,
    "text": "be three to six months behind if you do"
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    "text": "that."
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  {
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    "text": "Um so, it's a very important to stay"
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    "text": "near the frontier. And there's an"
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  {
    "startMs": 203720,
    "text": "important word here, near. Um there is a"
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    "text": "danger if you are at the frontier, um"
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  {
    "startMs": 210440,
    "text": "you can you can do what uh I call"
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  {
    "startMs": 212400,
    "text": "mid-whip miming, where you're spending"
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  {
    "startMs": 214080,
    "text": "all of your time working on your"
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  {
    "startMs": 215640,
    "text": "workflow and not doing actual work. And"
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  {
    "startMs": 218200,
    "text": "so, internally we've come up uh with a"
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  {
    "startMs": 220120,
    "text": "heuristic for this. Um we call it don't"
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    "startMs": 222320,
    "text": "beat the market. Don't try and beat the"
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  {
    "startMs": 224480,
    "text": "market. Um uh the concept here, like the"
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    "text": "heuristic you should use when you're"
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  {
    "startMs": 230000,
    "text": "you're to decide if you're near the"
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  {
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    "text": "frontier or at the frontier and uh too"
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    "startMs": 234360,
    "text": "deep in into"
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  {
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    "text": "the latest trends is you should ask"
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    "text": "yourself"
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  {
    "startMs": 239560,
    "text": "why isn't this workflow the default?"
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  {
    "startMs": 242840,
    "text": "So for example when"
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  {
    "startMs": 246000,
    "text": "Ralph loops were becoming a big thing"
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    "startMs": 250520,
    "text": "you should ask yourself like should I"
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  {
    "startMs": 252120,
    "text": "spend a ton of time optimizing my"
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  {
    "startMs": 254200,
    "text": "workflow to work with Ralph loops"
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    "startMs": 256359,
    "text": "because"
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    "startMs": 257560,
    "text": "if Ralph loops work for everyone like if"
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    "text": "they are the default then you probably"
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    "startMs": 262800,
    "text": "should just wait for Anthropic or Open"
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    "startMs": 264640,
    "text": "AI or ever to build the workflow into"
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  {
    "startMs": 267919,
    "text": "the into the default harness. You can"
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    "startMs": 270200,
    "text": "think of this is sort of like an"
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    "startMs": 271240,
    "text": "efficient market hypothesis where"
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    "startMs": 274280,
    "text": "unless you have like real alpha you"
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  {
    "startMs": 276960,
    "text": "shouldn't be optimizing your workflow"
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  {
    "startMs": 278640,
    "text": "too much. And what I mean by real alpha"
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  {
    "startMs": 281080,
    "text": "is like some kind of information about"
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  {
    "startMs": 282880,
    "text": "either your users or your code base that"
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  {
    "startMs": 285919,
    "text": "the models might not know about. So an"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 288320,
    "text": "example for us is we it's"
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  {
    "startMs": 291040,
    "text": "we're we're a chat app. We have to"
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    "startMs": 292240,
    "text": "render really long chats really quickly"
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  {
    "startMs": 294360,
    "text": "and performance is is important to us"
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  {
    "startMs": 296440,
    "text": "and so we need to spend a lot of time"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 298440,
    "text": "optimizing our react queries"
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  {
    "startMs": 300840,
    "text": "to render the chats quickly and we're"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 302960,
    "text": "willing to make sacrifices in other"
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    "startMs": 305240,
    "text": "parts of our code base to make that"
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    "text": "happen."
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  {
    "startMs": 307440,
    "text": "Um So if you have some kind of alpha"
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    "startMs": 309640,
    "text": "like some kind of information about the"
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    "startMs": 311760,
    "text": "app you're building that the models"
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  {
    "startMs": 312919,
    "text": "might not know about then you should put"
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  {
    "startMs": 314320,
    "text": "time into the workflow. Otherwise don't"
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  {
    "startMs": 317440,
    "text": "don't midwit meme. Don't don't be the"
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  {
    "startMs": 319040,
    "text": "person who has an amazing Emacs setup"
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  {
    "startMs": 320960,
    "text": "but like doesn't actually get stuff"
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    "text": "done."
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    "text": "Okay three."
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    "startMs": 326040,
    "text": "Create slop free zones. So at Conductor"
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  {
    "startMs": 329160,
    "text": "we have this term we call a slop free"
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    "text": "zone."
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    "text": "And a slop free zone is a part of the"
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    "text": "And we're actually I think a little bit"
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  {
    "startMs": 342080,
    "text": "unusual in this way. I think a lot of"
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  {
    "startMs": 343880,
    "text": "people assume that we are uh pure token"
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  {
    "startMs": 346080,
    "text": "maxers and we are like ripping through"
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  {
    "startMs": 347760,
    "text": "like 30,000 line PRs, but we're actually"
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  {
    "startMs": 350400,
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    "text": "with certain parts of our codebase, and"
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  {
    "startMs": 354320,
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    "startMs": 358120,
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    "startMs": 363440,
    "text": "can get in a really tricky spot. Um and"
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  {
    "startMs": 366840,
    "text": "this actually happened to us. We have"
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  {
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    "text": "careful about slot free zones. Um"
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  {
    "startMs": 374280,
    "text": "specifically, we have a uh migrations"
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    "text": "file. And"
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    "startMs": 379480,
    "text": "uh in our CI"
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  {
    "startMs": 381240,
    "text": "uh any change to migrations file"
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  {
    "startMs": 383200,
    "text": "requires the AI uh a human to review it."
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  {
    "startMs": 386680,
    "text": "Um we also assume that anything written"
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    "startMs": 388400,
    "text": "in Slack is slot free. It's It's not"
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    "startMs": 390240,
    "text": "written by the AI. It's written by a"
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  {
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    "text": "human. All of our docs, um all our cloud"
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  {
    "startMs": 394560,
    "text": "MDs, like all our skills, we put a ton"
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  {
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    "text": "of time into making them good. Um"
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    "startMs": 400440,
    "text": "and this is also something I've seen"
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    "startMs": 410760,
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    "text": "their ear every time they started"
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    "startMs": 435640,
    "text": "context every time they start working."
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  {
    "startMs": 437800,
    "text": "Um and so you probably want to put a lot"
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  {
    "startMs": 442760,
    "text": "Um okay, four."
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  {
    "startMs": 445080,
    "text": "Feed the beast."
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    "startMs": 446760,
    "text": "Uh"
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    "startMs": 448080,
    "text": "at Conductor, we have a uh internal tool"
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    "startMs": 451200,
    "text": "we call the Conductor Internal Agent. Um"
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  {
    "startMs": 454480,
    "text": "and it is"
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  {
    "startMs": 456160,
    "text": "uh we also also known as the CIA."
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    "startMs": 458720,
    "text": "And the CIA is basically like the the"
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    "text": "uh centralized database of everything"
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    "text": "So, anytime a new Slack message gets"
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    "text": "sent, the CIA picks it up. The CIA agent"
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    "startMs": 471000,
    "text": "will see that a new message sent Slack,"
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    "startMs": 472880,
    "text": "it will pick it up, and it will save it"
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    "text": "to a Postgres uh"
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  {
    "startMs": 476080,
    "text": "uh table. Anytime a user has a bug"
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  {
    "startMs": 478560,
    "text": "request in Discord, the same thing"
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  {
    "startMs": 479800,
    "text": "happens. Anytime we have a meeting, we"
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  {
    "startMs": 482080,
    "text": "are recording it, uh and it goes into"
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  {
    "startMs": 484440,
    "text": "the CIA. Um we call this feed the beast"
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  {
    "startMs": 487280,
    "text": "because you you want to for if your"
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    "startMs": 489800,
    "text": "agents to be effective uh"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 491920,
    "text": "in your company, you want them to have"
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  {
    "startMs": 493680,
    "text": "as much information and as much context"
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    "text": "as they can have about the way you guys"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 497480,
    "text": "specifically work. And the best way to"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 499880,
    "text": "do that is by having a centralized place"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 502600,
    "text": "for all of the information to go."
  },
  {
    "startMs": 505040,
    "text": "Uh I think this this tweet sums it up"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 507240,
    "text": "pretty well. Uh uh"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 509600,
    "text": "It's really effective to just put"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 511520,
    "text": "everything in a database and then give"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 513680,
    "text": "your agent a SQL tool and let it handle"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 516680,
    "text": "uh"
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  {
    "startMs": 517440,
    "text": "uh handle the rest."
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  {
    "startMs": 520800,
    "text": "Okay."
  },
  {
    "startMs": 521840,
    "text": "Next is free-range agents."
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  {
    "startMs": 526000,
    "text": "Give your agents"
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    "startMs": 718800,
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    "startMs": 722120,
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    "startMs": 757200,
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    "startMs": 781839,
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    "startMs": 784760,
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    "startMs": 812400,
    "text": "Uh this is my open claw called Lord"
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    "text": "Crandon."
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    "startMs": 822000,
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    "startMs": 824480,
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    "text": "from really or from Slack or wherever I"
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    "startMs": 836440,
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    "startMs": 838840,
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    "startMs": 845000,
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    "text": "work itself. Um"
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    "startMs": 855920,
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    "text": "organization."
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    "startMs": 1012400,
    "text": "Stay near the frontier. Don't try and"
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    "text": "beat the market. Create slop free zones."
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    "text": "Feed the beast. Free range agents and"
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    "text": "think about orchestras not factories."
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    "startMs": 1025199,
    "text": "Came up with this handy acronym for for"
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    "text": "remembering it. Stickfo."
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    "text": "All right. So thanks thanks a ton for"
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    "text": "I'll see you on the internet."
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