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    "text": ">> Can you all hear me? All right."
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    "startMs": 14560,
    "text": "Um"
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    "text": "Well, first things for coming. I can't"
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  {
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    "text": "believe there's anybody in the room, but"
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  {
    "startMs": 18600,
    "text": "that's very nice. Uh"
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    "text": "Uh my name is Jean-Denis. Um I'm CTO at"
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    "text": "a company called Town. We're not going"
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    "text": "to really talk about Town, so you can go"
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    "text": "to town.com and check that out if you"
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    "text": "want, but that's not the point of the"
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    "text": "talk today. I was CTO at Plaid for 7"
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    "text": "years, and then I was at Dropbox before."
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    "text": "And then before that I built software"
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    "text": "in my career, and right now I'm working"
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    "text": "uh assistance agents for for normal"
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    "text": "people, not not for engineers, but for"
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    "text": "like basically everyone in America and"
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    "text": "the world."
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    "text": "And one of the things we've been working"
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    "text": "other agents. So, agent-to-agent. And"
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    "text": "the main idea is that we think there's"
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    "text": "huge network effects if agents can work"
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    "text": "because in the real world the way most"
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    "startMs": 69280,
    "text": "right? Uh"
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    "startMs": 70440,
    "text": "more is better. But, actually"
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    "text": "I don't think agent-to-agent makes much"
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    "text": "Um and in this, by the way, there's no"
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    "text": "Cool. So, what what does that have to do"
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    "text": "right? And it has one context window,"
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    "text": "a few So, you're learning economics"
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    "text": "uh including emails before we were"
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    "startMs": 292120,
    "text": "Um and the work context, this might be"
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    "text": "And this is very popular right now."
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    "text": "Uh it's very popular with IT teams and"
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    "text": "security teams cuz it's the same model"
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    "startMs": 356760,
    "text": "Um but that's okay. Your is my"
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    "text": "is actually very cool approach. I don't"
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    "startMs": 902880,
    "text": "Sorry. I'm like"
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    "startMs": 905360,
    "text": "We have plenty of time. I'm almost done."
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  {
    "startMs": 906640,
    "text": "So, it's great. Um the nightmare"
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    "startMs": 908440,
    "text": "scenarios with things like this is"
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    "startMs": 918720,
    "text": "somewhere else, right?\" So, you know,"
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    "text": "source claw-ish worlds and then like"
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    "startMs": 972520,
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    "text": "can't get rid of it."
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    "text": "Uh that's fine for Apex. That's a funny"
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    "text": "one, but it's like much more difficult"
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    "text": "disclosure,"
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    "startMs": 1046600,
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    "startMs": 1048480,
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    "startMs": 1116880,
    "text": "fine. I they can it can look at the"
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    "startMs": 1118120,
    "text": "content. It can see what my role is. It"
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    "startMs": 1119960,
    "text": "can decide from a risk perspective I'm"
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    "startMs": 1122120,
    "text": "okay with that disclosure.\""
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    "startMs": 1123920,
    "text": "Um and the cool thing about auto, by the"
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    "text": "And then magically, as time goes on,"
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    "startMs": 1147040,
    "text": "it'll get bigger and your system will"
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    "text": "naturally get more powerful, which is"
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  {
    "startMs": 1149800,
    "text": "what you you So, you want to be on a"
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    "text": "beach."
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  {
    "startMs": 1153640,
    "text": "That's what you want to do. That's where"
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  {
    "startMs": 1154600,
    "text": "I want to be. My kids"
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    "startMs": 1156880,
    "text": "in Hawaii. Okay, network effects. I've 1"
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  {
    "startMs": 1158560,
    "text": "minute."
  },
  {
    "startMs": 1159480,
    "text": "Uh this is the conclusion. So, we talked"
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    "startMs": 1233360,
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    "startMs": 1235000,
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  {
    "startMs": 1237760,
    "text": "yeah."
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    "text": "do I trust the future where agents make"
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    "text": "all the decisions about privacy? I don't"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 1245120,
    "text": "know about that. I just think it's a it"
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    "startMs": 1248800,
    "text": "things are going."
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  {
    "startMs": 1250240,
    "text": "And I just I'm like so good on time. So,"
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  {
    "startMs": 1252440,
    "text": "I'm on time. Thank you for coming. I"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 1254200,
    "text": "again, uh"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 1256040,
    "text": "yeah. [applause] Thanks for being here,"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 1257280,
    "text": "and"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 1273989,
    "text": ">> [music]"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 1276440,
    "text": ">> Mhm."
  }
]