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    "text": "All right, good morning everyone. Um, thanks for hanging with us here. I think"
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    "text": "thanks for hanging with us here. I think we're coming up to lunch, so we'll uh um"
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    "text": "in the market right now are doing great, right? So it's not a question of whether"
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    "text": "challenge I think is not right now there is enough skills available in the market"
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    "text": "is enough skills available in the market"
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    "startMs": 634640,
    "text": "is enough skills available in the market and everyone is creating more and more."
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    "text": "and everyone is creating more and more."
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    "startMs": 636399,
    "text": "and everyone is creating more and more. I think curation is what has become more"
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    "startMs": 641360,
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    "startMs": 642949,
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    "startMs": 651990,
    "text": "made available to your organization."
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    "startMs": 652000,
    "text": "made available to your organization. Right? The challenge is more whether you"
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    "startMs": 653509,
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    "text": "only be a few handful of those that are actually meaningful for your"
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    "startMs": 664079,
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    "startMs": 669990,
    "text": "clients need to spend their time and"
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    "startMs": 670000,
    "text": "clients need to spend their time and it's changing so fast because it's like"
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    "startMs": 671670,
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    "startMs": 671680,
    "text": "it's changing so fast because it's like there is a proliferation for the same. I"
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    "startMs": 673750,
    "text": "there is a proliferation for the same. I"
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    "startMs": 673760,
    "text": "there is a proliferation for the same. I was talking to a client yesterday for"
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    "text": "was talking to a client yesterday for"
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    "text": "was talking to a client yesterday for just writing a simple product"
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    "text": "just writing a simple product"
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    "startMs": 676959,
    "text": "just writing a simple product requirement document. They just"
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    "startMs": 678560,
    "text": "requirement document. They just literally Googled and there are like"
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    "startMs": 680150,
    "text": "literally Googled and there are like"
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    "text": "1,700 skills that you can download just"
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    "startMs": 682079,
    "text": "1,700 skills that you can download just for that one task. Right? Now, which one"
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    "startMs": 684230,
    "text": "for that one task. Right? Now, which one"
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    "startMs": 684240,
    "text": "for that one task. Right? Now, which one do you use? And it's like paralysis in"
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    "text": "do you use? And it's like paralysis in"
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    "startMs": 687040,
    "text": "do you use? And it's like paralysis in decision-m that's where they are"
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    "startMs": 688550,
    "text": "decision-m that's where they are"
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    "startMs": 688560,
    "text": "decision-m that's where they are struggling the most. So that curation"
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    "startMs": 1213600,
    "text": "know, go go out there and and and do more of this and and we'll we'll love to"
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  {
    "startMs": 1217190,
    "text": "hear how it goes. So, thank you so much"
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  {
    "startMs": 1217200,
    "text": "hear how it goes. So, thank you so much for having us and have a great rest of"
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    "startMs": 1219350,
    "text": "for having us and have a great rest of"
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  {
    "startMs": 1219360,
    "text": "for having us and have a great rest of the day. Thank you."
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