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    "text": "Thank you all for being here. Uh my name"
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    "startMs": 15350,
    "text": "Thank you all for being here. Uh my name"
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    "startMs": 15360,
    "text": "Thank you all for being here. Uh my name is Mislav. I'm a developer experience"
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    "text": "is Mislab. I'm a developer experience"
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    "startMs": 17279,
    "text": "is Mislab. I'm a developer experience engineer at Daytona. And for the last"
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    "text": "engineer at Daytona. And for the last"
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    "text": "engineer at Daytona. And for the last year my main ta my main task and goal"
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    "text": "year my main ta my main task and goal"
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    "text": "year my main ta my main task and goal there was to integrate Daytona basically"
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    "text": "there was to integrate Daytona basically"
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    "text": "there was to integrate Daytona basically everywhere where where sandbox makes"
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    "text": "sense because where they are sandbox"
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    "text": "provider and these are spanning from agent frameworks uh coding agent"
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    "text": "agent frameworks uh coding agent"
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    "text": "agent frameworks uh coding agent harnesses workflow tools uh development"
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    "text": "harnesses workflow tools uh development"
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    "text": "product developer products and stuff like that and during this process I"
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    "text": "like that and during this process I"
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    "startMs": 41680,
    "text": "like that and during this process I noticed the pattern that was repeating"
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    "text": "noticed the pattern that was repeating"
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    "text": "noticed the pattern that was repeating all the time and it maybe it made me"
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    "text": "all the time and it maybe it made me"
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    "text": "all the time and it maybe it made me stop a bit think about some things that"
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    "text": "stop a bit think about some things that eventually led to this talk."
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    "text": "eventually led to this talk."
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    "text": "eventually led to this talk. So yeah, I would need your help on this"
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    "startMs": 54069,
    "text": "So yeah, I would need your help on this"
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    "text": "So yeah, I would need your help on this slide. Does anyone have a guess which AI"
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    "text": "slide. Does anyone have a guess which AI"
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    "startMs": 57039,
    "text": "slide. Does anyone have a guess which AI agent framework is this?"
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    "text": "agent framework is this?"
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    "text": "agent framework is this? If somebody has a guess, lang chain,"
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    "text": "If somebody has a guess, lang chain,"
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    "text": "If somebody has a guess, lang chain, LangGraph,"
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    "text": "LangGraph,"
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    "text": "LangGraph, Google adu,"
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    "text": "okay, let let's say lang chain. But the"
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    "text": "okay, let let's say lang chain. But the"
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    "text": "okay, let let's say lang chain. But the the main uh thing about this is that"
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    "text": "the main uh thing about this is that"
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    "text": "the main uh thing about this is that whatever you you told can basically be"
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    "text": "whatever you you told can basically be correct and defensible. Why do I say"
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    "text": "correct and defensible. Why do I say that? It's because during the"
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    "text": "that? It's because during the"
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    "text": "that? It's because during the integration of Daytona into these AI"
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    "text": "they I can barely uh differentiate the Daytona related code contribution part"
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    "text": "Daytona related code contribution part"
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    "text": "Daytona related code contribution part between these. So in some of these uh"
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    "text": "between these. So in some of these uh you integrate as a tool in others you"
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    "text": "do some internal framework API stuff. But under the hood all all of these ways"
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    "text": "But under the hood all all of these ways uh speak the three same lines. So it's"
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    "text": "uh speak the three same lines. So it's"
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    "text": "deletion. And this this pretty weird because most"
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    "text": "their own to achieve the end goal. And"
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    "text": "their own to achieve the end goal. And yeah, uh, when companies like or"
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    "text": "yeah, uh, when companies like or"
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    "text": "yeah, uh, when companies like or companies like this, uh, that don't"
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    "text": "companies like this, uh, that don't"
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    "text": "So why why they agree do they agree on these things? So as I like to say,"
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    "text": "these things? So as I like to say,"
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    "text": "your AI agents that's useful, you eventually come up to the state where"
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    "text": "a code or needs to have shell access."
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    "text": "a code or needs to have shell access. And the next question is where where"
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    "text": "And the next question is where where"
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    "text": "And the next question is where where will this happen in which execution"
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    "text": "environment? So I would say there are basically three"
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    "text": "everything. Uh, which you probably don't"
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    "text": "I like to say it and the sentence I would maybe like for you all of here to"
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    "text": "starting to work on a product you you define an interface uh the execution"
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    "text": "define an interface uh the execution"
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    "text": "define an interface uh the execution posture between an interface you control"
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    "text": "posture between an interface you control"
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    "text": "posture between an interface you control and everything except that can be easily"
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    "text": "and everything except that can be easily swappable in the future and reversed."
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    "text": "swappable in the future and reversed."
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    "text": "swappable in the future and reversed. And once you define this interface, of"
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    "text": "And once you define this interface, of"
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    "text": "And once you define this interface, of course, you should use the execution"
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    "text": "course, you should use the execution"
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    "text": "right uh the part security part"
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    "text": "right uh the part security part regarding the execution is solved and"
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    "text": "regarding the execution is solved and you can I mean continue with developing"
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    "text": "you can I mean continue with developing"
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    "text": "you can I mean continue with developing your uh featur product features and"
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    "text": "your uh featur product features and"
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    "text": "your uh featur product features and stuff around this without any you know"
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    "text": "stuff around this without any you know"
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    "startMs": 902320,
    "text": "stuff around this without any you know concerns about the potential security"
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    "text": "concerns about the potential security"
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    "text": "concerns about the potential security vulnerabilities or stuff like that and"
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    "text": "vulnerabilities or stuff like that and"
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    "startMs": 907040,
    "text": "vulnerabilities or stuff like that and yeah that's it from my side since I"
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    "startMs": 909030,
    "text": "yeah that's it from my side since I"
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  {
    "startMs": 909040,
    "text": "yeah that's it from my side since I mentioned I was doing some integrations"
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    "startMs": 910629,
    "text": "mentioned I was doing some integrations"
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    "startMs": 910639,
    "text": "mentioned I was doing some integrations and guides we have these listed as open"
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  {
    "startMs": 913430,
    "text": "and guides we have these listed as open"
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  {
    "startMs": 913440,
    "text": "and guides we have these listed as open source as guides and plugins and"
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    "startMs": 915910,
    "text": "source as guides and plugins and"
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    "startMs": 915920,
    "text": "source as guides and plugins and packages. And there's also a third QR"
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  {
    "startMs": 918790,
    "text": "packages. And there's also a third QR"
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  {
    "startMs": 918800,
    "text": "packages. And there's also a third QR code shows the comparison article that's"
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    "startMs": 921030,
    "text": "code shows the comparison article that's"
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  {
    "startMs": 921040,
    "text": "code shows the comparison article that's comparing different AI agent frameworks"
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  {
    "startMs": 922870,
    "text": "comparing different AI agent frameworks"
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  {
    "startMs": 922880,
    "text": "comparing different AI agent frameworks a bit more in depth that we listed here."
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  {
    "startMs": 925590,
    "text": "a bit more in depth that we listed here."
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  {
    "startMs": 925600,
    "text": "a bit more in depth that we listed here. And yeah, that's it from my side. Thank"
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  {
    "startMs": 927430,
    "text": "And yeah, that's it from my side. Thank"
  },
  {
    "startMs": 927440,
    "text": "And yeah, that's it from my side. Thank you."
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