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We Gave an Agent Production Code Access and Then Tried to Sleep at Night
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Giving a Patching Agent Production Access Without Giving It the Keys
PatchPilot separates dependency reasoning from privileged orchestration, then moves Docker verification behind a microVM boundary to constrain what a compromised agent can reach.
From a talk by Moritz Johner
Before you start: Familiarity with Dockerfiles, dependency updates, pull requests, and CI will help you follow the workflow and its security boundaries.
Why a version bump is not a finished patch
Dependency patching resembles vacuuming: finish the job, and it soon needs doing again. Across thousands of repositories, the backlog never empties. Moritz Johner illustrates the treadmill with ten issues closed today and twenty more arriving next week. Automating the repetitive work sounds straightforward—Dependabot and Renovate already create dependency updates—but the vulnerable component may sit outside the dependency declaration the automation knows how to change.
An OS package can arrive inside a container’s base image without appearing explicitly in the Dockerfile. A build can also download a binary from a URL: seeing a version in that URL does not establish how to remediate the binary’s vulnerabilities. Johner characterizes the existing workflow as patching manifests while leaving the rest invisible. That characterization needs a narrow reading: current Renovate custom managers can extract dependencies beyond ordinary manifests. The missing capability here is reasoning from a vulnerable shipped artifact back to the changes that fix it.
Even a visible dependency rarely changes in isolation. Upgrading the Go runtime to another minor version can require upgrading the Go linter. The newer linter can introduce rules that invalidate previously accepted code. A bot that bumps only the runtime and opens a pull request leaves an engineer to resolve that chain of consequences. The task is to locate the CVE across the artifact’s full surface, then determine everything else that must move to reach green CI.
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Useful access creates a supply chain actor
The team built PatchPilot to do that reasoning and put it into production. InfoSec then asked whether they had created useful automation or a supply chain incident waiting to happen. Johner accepts the pushback: a useful coding agent is a supply chain actor. Once an application has production credentials and can change code, it needs guardrails comparable to those applied to an engineer. The practical question becomes which capabilities the agent itself needs, and which the surrounding application can perform on its behalf.
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A predictable controller around a reasoning agent
PatchPilot starts with the artifacts customers actually receive: OCI images. A deterministic Go application discovers and scans those images, then maps each image to the repository that builds it. This mapping connects a vulnerability in a shipped artifact to a place where the system can make a repair. The controller is deliberately simple; agents run inside its orchestration when the work requires diagnosis.
A failed CI run illustrates the division. The failure might be caused by the patch, a flaky test, an infrastructure problem, or a timeout. Those cases do not all call for another code change: a timeout may need only a retry. The controller manages the lifecycle; the agent interprets the evidence and decides what kind of repair, if any, is appropriate. In the walkthrough diagram, green denotes deterministic controller steps and yellow denotes agent steps.
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From an assessment to a local change
The first agent invocation has a concrete input and a deliberately restricted output:
- Prepare the assessment. A JSON manifest lists images and the CVEs found in each image.
- Prepare the workspace. The controller clones the repository and creates a context directory containing the assessment, a substantial prompt, and material used to communicate with the agent.
- Remediate the findings. The CVE remediation agent makes the smallest effective change set. It targets the version that fixes the identified CVE rather than upgrading everything to the latest release.
- Verify locally. The agent is instructed to build the Dockerfile and rescan the resulting image.
The scope restriction matters because unrelated upgrades introduce risk without helping resolve the assessed findings.
The agent’s output is a modified filesystem. It does not commit, push, create a pull request, or watch CI. After it returns control, the controller vets the changes for accidental debris: an incorrectly assembled shell pipeline can create empty files, and a build can leave a compiled binary in the repository. This check catches a different class of mistake from whether the vulnerability was fixed.
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Keep the PR lifecycle outside the agent
After vetting, the controller commits and pushes the changes, opens a pull request, and watches CI. Green CI leads to a Slack notification. A failure leads to another agent invocation, this time with CI logs, workflow metadata, and the other context needed to diagnose the PR.
The PR remediation agent must make minimum forward fixes. Johner found that models tend to revert their preceding changes to recover a passing build; for a security patch, that can undo the reason for the PR. The repair instructions therefore require preserving the remediation and verifying the new work. The controller repeats the publish-and-watch cycle until CI passes or a configured retry limit sends the issue to a human.
The ownership split can be expressed with a small Go control loop. Here, publishAndWatch belongs to the controller; repairLocally receives failure context and edits and verifies the workspace. Each repair returns through vet before publication.
go
package patching
import "errors"
type Failure struct {
Logs string
Workflow string
}
var ErrNeedsHuman = errors.New("CI repair limit reached")
func Reconcile(
maxRepairs int,
vet func() error,
publishAndWatch func() (*Failure, error),
repairLocally func(Failure) error,
) error {
for repairs := 0; ; repairs++ {
if err := vet(); err != nil {
return err
}
failure, err := publishAndWatch()
if err != nil {
return err
}
if failure == nil {
return nil
}
if repairs >= maxRepairs {
return ErrNeedsHuman
}
if err := repairLocally(*failure); err != nil {
return err
}
}
}
The function shape makes the retry boundary explicit. Credential separation must enforce the corresponding authority boundary: passing a narrowly named function is not itself a security control.
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Make each invocation explain its friction
At the end of every invocation, PatchPilot asks the agent for a short retrospective: what went well, what went wrong, which tools were missing, and what context would help next time. These reports give the team a practical view into agent behavior while agent observability remains an open problem. Aggregating and condensing them across pull requests exposes recurring problems that are harder to see in individual runs.
Two categories recur:
- Infrastructure failures: network problems or insufficient permissions to clone a repository.
- Repository complexity: codebases that are difficult to reason about without additional context.
The second category can lead to changes in the system prompt or repository-specific instructions. The retrospective is useful because it directs attention toward the missing tool, permission, or explanation rather than treating every unsuccessful run as the same kind of model failure.
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The useful patch removes an override
The production example is heavily redacted because it comes from a finance environment, but its important behavior is visible in the walkthrough. The patch updates a golang base image—an ordinary dependency-update operation—and also remediates libcrypto3 and libssl3.
The diff explains how those changes fit together. The packages had previously been pinned explicitly. Once the updated base image supplied their fixes, the agent removed the obsolete pins. The repair therefore depended on understanding what the new base image already provided, not merely replacing one version string with another. Johner says he might have missed that cleanup himself. The result is a working pull request awaiting human review, approval, and merge; green CI does not make those decisions disappear.
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Separate application capabilities from agent credentials
The complete PatchPilot application needs substantial access. Its GitHub capabilities cover cloning repositories, committing and pushing changes, opening PRs, downloading CI logs, and triggering CI. OCI registry credentials let it enumerate images and determine which are latest. Its execution environment includes Go and Python runtimes, linters, static libraries, a shell, and network access.
Those capabilities are not all handed to the agent. The architecture’s two layers also divide credentials:
| Capability | Owner |
|---|---|
| Edit and verify workspace files | Agent |
| Push changes and open PRs | Deterministic controller |
| Trigger CI | Deterministic controller |
The write credentials and CI-triggering authority stay in code whose actions the team can reason about directly. If untrusted context redirects the agent, it does not thereby acquire those credentials. The application can be powerful without making every part equally powerful.
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Treat repository context as an attack surface
Johner reports roughly 70,000 changed lines in the demonstrated PR after only a few dependency bumps. That is the size of one dependency-remediation diff, not a count of code independently authored by the agent. It illustrates how much material can enter the workflow through a seemingly small update, and why the credential boundary matters.
PatchPilot does not assume prompt injection is solved. It uses prompt steering to identify known sources of untrusted context, including the vendor directory and files containing CI logs. The instruction is to treat that material as evidence to inspect, not authority to obey.
The team also runs end-to-end evaluations against crafted repositories. One contains a deprecated function that tries to recruit the agent into malicious behavior; another route leads through a migration guide referenced by a deprecated function. These tests exercise the workflow an agent would actually follow while repairing code. The slide expands the attack surface to source code, migration guides and README.md, GitHub issues and release notes, poisoned CVE advisories, and CI logs. Known cases can be tested, but unknown injection vectors remain, which is why steering and evaluations sit alongside limits on what the agent can do.
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A host Docker socket punctures the sandbox
Local verification creates another security problem. An agent repairing a Dockerfile needs to build an image and may need to run a container to inspect installed package versions. Giving it a Docker socket seems like the natural way to make that possible.
But access to a powerful host Docker daemon—particularly a rootful daemon—can turn a restricted workspace into host-level authority. The agent can ask the daemon to launch a privileged container and reach outside its original sandbox. Johner describes the resulting risks: reading other processes’ environments or memory and planting SSH keys. The Docker security boundary depends on the daemon’s privileges; this warning is not a claim that every rootless or restricted socket has identical power. In the diagram, docker.sock crosses the sandbox boundary to a host labeled “root.”
The team had run the host-socket configuration in production and moved away from it. They reconsidered Linux isolation mechanisms, including Landlock, Bubblewrap, seccomp-related mechanisms, and Fence, as well as container build options such as Kaniko and BuildKit. Johner’s objection was that the evaluated approaches did not compose adequately with their container workflow or contain access to the host’s Docker daemon. Restricting the agent process is insufficient if that process can command a more privileged service outside the restriction.
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Put Docker inside the isolation boundary
The emerging replacement uses a Firecracker microVM. Both the agent and its Docker daemon live inside the guest, with a separate guest kernel. A container escape into that guest no longer implies the same direct route into the host that the host-socket arrangement provided. Johner describes this design as still in its infancy: the microVM adds an isolation boundary, rather than making escapes categorically impossible.
Network policy follows the same controller–agent split. The controller has relatively predictable destinations, such as GitHub. The agent’s requirements depend on the repository: Java, Python, and Go need access to different ecosystems. Applying one undifferentiated network policy to both layers would ignore that distinction.
In the proposed plumbing, a DNS and TCP forwarder inside the microVM sends traffic through vsock to a host process. Other host connectivity is cut off, making that process the point where outgoing traffic is checked. Policies can match hostnames, destination ports, and CIDR ranges. This forwarding and enforcement layer belongs to the surrounding design; Firecracker itself is not the egress firewall.
A further option is to install a custom certificate authority inside the guest and intercept TLS traffic for finer inspection. Johner flags that as difficult, particularly around Docker, and does not develop it further. The core design already separates two responsibilities: the guest boundary contains the execution environment, while the host-side forwarder governs where that environment can communicate.
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Isolation still needs an operational system
For the configurations discussed in the recording, Johner considers the sandboxes bundled with Codex and Claude inadequate once a host Docker socket is exposed; he describes OpenCode and Pi as lacking built-in sandboxes. These are his assessments of those configurations, not a current feature matrix. His desired contract is an externally enforced environment in which the agent has the tools and freedom needed to finish the assigned job.
A VM with the necessary forwarding is not an exotic invention, and sandbox services can supply parts of it. Their suitability depends on details such as Docker containment and network access controls, which vary across providers. Johner names Microsandbox as the project he would consider if rebuilding PatchPilot, particularly for its included network controls. He describes it as open source and YC-funded, while questioning whether it will attract enough community traction to remain sustainable. His recommendation is exploratory: he treats the project as young, and continued availability alone does not answer the operational questions.
The remaining gap is getting those pieces into an enterprise deployment. In Johner’s assessment, much of the ecosystem is still beta, with missing features and limited enterprise adoption. Even a suitable sandbox needs orchestration above it. He points to vendor offerings, Kubernetes Agent Sandbox, a project under SIG Apps, and OpenSandbox as efforts in that direction. Managing sandbox lifecycles is a separate responsibility from the runtime that provides isolation; selecting one does not eliminate the need for the other.
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The architectural split is the security model
An agent’s blast radius is an architectural decision. PatchPilot needs to push changes, open PRs, and trigger CI, but its reasoning agent does not need to hold the credentials for those operations. Moving them into the deterministic controller preserves the workflow while limiting the agent’s direct authority. Deciding what is deterministic and what is agentic therefore determines more than code organization: it determines the security model.
Johner closes by inviting comparison with other production systems, including discussion at the following day’s sandbox panel. The open work is practical: how teams provide agents enough freedom to complete real tasks, which boundaries they enforce outside the model, and what orchestration makes those boundaries usable in production.
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Resources
From the talk
Architecture of Firecracker microVMs, including virtualization boundaries, host integration and layered containment.
An open-source microVM runtime with OCI image support, SDKs and a command-line interface.
Kubernetes controllers and custom resources for sandbox lifecycle management, with isolation delegated to configured runtimes.
Further reading
- Docker Engine securityDocumentation
Explains Docker daemon privileges, host mounts and the security implications of daemon access.
Configure Renovate to extract and update dependency versions using custom patterns.
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- 0:00
[outro jingle] Thanks everyone for joining in. Uh, thanks for the great intro, by the way.
- 0:16
Um, so yeah, my talk today is about, um, so the title is, We Gave an Agent Production Code Access and Then Tried to Sleep at Night. Um, so
- 0:26
it's mostly around dependency, dependency patching, which is probably the most
- 0:32
glamorous problem in software engineering. I guess everyone did it here at some point in the past. Um, it really is like vacuuming. Like, everyone loves it, can't wait to do, do it again next week.
- 0:42
Now, at our scale, we have thousands of repositories, and it really is a backlog that never empties, and you close ten issues today, and you know next week twenty more will arrive, and you have to deal with them.
- 0:54
So naturally, you think, "Sure, let's just automate it. Dependabot exists. Renovate exists. Problem solved, right?"
- 1:03
It isn't, 'cause these tools were really built for a world where fixing a CVE means, um, um, looking at the manifest in a repository and just, you know, bumping a version to the next version, and that's it.
- 1:17
Um, but our world is much more complicated than that, at least nowadays, now with-- since we have containers. So the first problem is that the vulnerable thing isn't necessarily the thing that these tools can see.
- 1:28
For instance, a CVE might live in an OS package that you use in your base image. It's not in your Docker file. It's just in your base image. Or if your Docker file pulls down a binary during the build process, it may see the URL, which might contain a version number, but it has no idea how to
- 1:44
act on it. So they can only look at the manifest, patch the manifest, but everything else is just simply invisible.
- 1:52
Now, the second problem is patches never happen in isolation.
- 1:57
So when we look at a Go code base, sometimes we wanna bump the Go runtime to the next minor version. When you do that, sometimes you might have to also bump the Go linter 'cause their version are just intertwined.
- 2:08
You have to bump both of them at, at the same time. So when you bump the linter, that sometimes introduces new linting rules, which then invalidates your code base, and you're left with this big mess.
- 2:19
Now, these old tools, quote-unquote, old tools, Dependabot and Renovate bot,
- 2:23
well, they just bump the Go runtime version, create a PR, and walk away, and you're just left with this mess, and you need to figure out how to fix that.
- 2:36
So you don't really have, like, a patching problem. You also have, like, a reasoning problem that you, um, need to address here.
- 2:44
You really wanna have a tool that looks at the CVE and understands the full surface of it. Where does the CVE actually live? And needs to figure out what else needs to move in order to, um, get to a green CI.
- 2:57
So that's basically what we did. Um, we built PatchPilot.
- 3:01
We pushed to production, and eventually InfoSec, um, came around the corner and asked a very reasonable question, "Is this automation, or is this a supply chain incident waiting to happen?"
- 3:12
A useful coding agent is a supply chain actor, whether you plan for that or not. That's the thesis of this talk, basically. It's not agents are dangerous or agents are fine.
- 3:22
It's the moment where you give an agent, um, production credentials in order to, like, be useful. It really becomes a supply chain actor, just like an engineer in your department, and you should apply similar or the same guardrails, uh, for the agent, just as you do for engineers.
- 3:41
Now, this is a case study. We built this. We ran it in production. InfoSec pushed back in several places. They were right. Um, I just wanna present to you what we came up with in the end.
- 3:49
Um, it's nothing new. It's nothing fancy. Um, I just wanna share, share what we did and then hopefully have a discussion afterwards, um, to see how we all figure this out together.
- 4:01
Now, PatchPilot has two layers. One, it's a simple Go application that is deterministic. It's boring. It just does orchestration. It discovers vulnerable artifacts. So artifacts, that's our OCI images.
- 4:14
That's what we have in production. That's what we ship to our customers, and that's the thing that we really care about.
- 4:20
So the Go app discovers those, scans the images, um, and figures out which image is built by which repository, um, because we need that link in order to later then work on the repositories.
- 4:34
And this deterministic part is very boring on purpose. It's very simple. Um, and inside that, we spawn agents.
- 4:41
Now, these agents are there for the, for the reasoning. For instance, when we see a CI failure, we just tell the agent, "Look, that's a CI failure. Please figure out what the hell to do in this case."
- 4:51
It could be that CI failed because, um, a previous change that we did. It could also be a flaky CI. It could be an infrastructure failure, just a simple timeout that just, you know, caused the CI failure, and then, then we would just need to retry and do nothing else in that case.
- 5:08
Now let's have a look at it, how it looks, uh, end to end.
- 5:12
So first and foremost, um, a little bit of color coding. I hope, I hope you can see this. So the green bits, that's our, um, deterministic part, our Go application, and the yellow ones, that's the agent.
- 5:21
Um, so first we start with the, um, with the assessment. That's just a simple manifest, a simple JSON file which contains a list of images and the CVEs that it found for these particular images.
- 5:33
Um, it will then moves on and downloads the repository it's supposed to work on, um, clones it into a local directory, and creates another directory inside it, where it then shoves all the context for the agent inside there.
- 5:47
That's a prompt whi-which has, like, I don't know, like, two thousand words or so. Um, it's the assessment manifest, um, a couple of other things for, like, communicating with the agent.
- 5:59
And then simply, we simply invoke the CVE remediation agent, which is, like, the first bit, um, the first agentic part that we invoke, which is supposed to do the, the smallest effective change set.
- 6:10
And it should only fix the CVEs which are tied to the findings. You shouldn't just, you know, bump the dependencies to the latest and greatest version. That's just-- That intro- introduces unnecessary risk, which we want to avoid.
- 6:21
So just bump to the version that actually fixes the CVE and, um, nothing more.
- 6:27
And at the every- very end, the agent then, of course, should, um, just verify its own work. Should ensure that the Docker file is able to build, should, um, rescan the image that it has built and all of that stuff.
- 6:40
Um, so the CVE remediation agent actually just modifies files in the file system. It doesn't commit, it doesn't push, it doesn't create a PR, it doesn't watch CI itself.
- 6:49
It just modifies files in the file system. And once it's done, it hands back control to the controller, to the deterministic bit, which then quickly vets the changes for, you know, some nonsense in zero-- in there.
- 7:03
For instance, like, um, empty files or some binaries that the agent might create because agents are really dumb. They mess up, you know, some bash commands that are piped together, which then could, um, create empty files, or they just, you know, compile the application and leave the binary inside the repository, which is nonsense.
- 7:22
So we gotta take care of that. And then we commit it, we push it, we create a PR, um, and then we watch CI.
- 7:30
Now, once CI is green, cool, we just send over Slack notifications, and we're done. Um, in case there's a CI failure, we just move to the next agentic bit, which, um, should then just remediate the PR failure.
- 7:43
To do that, we just give it all the context that it needs. So CI logs, um, workflow metadata that we need, and everything else that is needed to work on this, uh, on this CI failure, and then we invoke it.
- 7:55
And this PR remediation agent just simply should do the minimum forward fixes. It-- Kind of, like, elements, elements kind of tend to just revert the previous changes that it did.
- 8:05
So we gotta tell it to not do this. Um, and again, it should just verify its own work. And this then goes on in a loop, create and watch, um, the PR or watch CI, um, fix the CI failure, and so on and so forth, until we hit, like, um, a, a maximum retry.
- 8:21
And then we send that over to an, to a human in case there's like, um, the limit is reached. We then just simply tell the, tell the human to take a look at this particular issue because then that needs manual remediation.
- 8:36
There's one more thing that I wanna share here, which is that at the end of every agent invocation, we ask the agent to do a very short and simple retrospective.
- 8:46
What went well, what went wrong, what tools are missing, and what conte- context would help the next time it would be invoked. And this really helps us to understand what the agent is doing and what is, what is missing out.
- 8:57
Um, now, the observability for the agentic bits, that's still, like, an open issue and being built by the community at the moment. That's just how we deal-- uh, dealt with this, with this particular issue.
- 9:08
Um, so yeah, that really helps us to understand this at scale because then we can just aggregate all this, all that information across the PRs, condense it down, and then we can see, um, what we need to fix.
- 9:19
We usually saw, like, two kinds of issues. One is an infrastructure-related issue. It could be, um, network failures or that the agent didn't have enough permissions in order to, like, clone a repository.
- 9:31
Um, or it could be some complexity issue related with the repository. Some repositories are just hard to deal with and hard to reason about without having the, the, the context that the, the agent needs.
- 9:43
And then we just need to either modify the system prompt of the agent, or we then have repository-specific instructions, um, that we then just feed, um, to our agent to work on this issue.
- 9:56
I brought a screenshot here with me. Um, I had to redact a lot of stuff because it's an actual, like, production kind of screenshot and, you know, in finance, you don't wanna share this kind of information.
- 10:06
But, um, yeah, that's what I wanna get out. So here at the top where the arrow is, that's a very simple bit. We just now bump the, the base image that we're using from the Go lang.
- 10:16
That's something that Dependabot can do, and that's boring. Here at the bottom, we can see that the agent, uh, updated libcrypto3 and libssl3. So, um, yeah. I also have, like, a short diff, um, that I wanna quickly showcase what the agent did.
- 10:32
Um, you can see here on the left-hand side that it-- that these, um, bottom two... Can I just go there? Here. That we have these two packages here that it actually removed in the process because these packages, um, have been pinned previously, and then just removed those because they have been fixed by the actual base image.
- 10:48
So to be honest, if I were tasked with this kind of task, I probably would have missed that. So I'm, like, glad that the agent, um, fixed that and is a good, good engineer here.
- 10:59
So and that's it. So we started with a bunch of CVEs. We scanned artifacts, um, remediated, remediated the, the CVEs and the findings, and now we have a proper working, um, uh, PR that then just needs to be reviewed by a human and approved and merged.
- 11:15
So to make that work, um, we gave PatchPilot a couple of things. We gave it GitHub access, um, read and write access to clone the repository, to commit and to push changes, to open a PR, to download the CI logs, and trigger CI.
- 11:29
We also gave it OCI registry credentials in order to list images in the, in the registry to figure out, you know, what images are available, which are latest. Um, we gave it tools like a Go runtime, Python runtime, a bunch of linters, static libs, a bash, a shell, network access, and all of that.
- 11:47
Um, so this is what we gave the whole application. But again, we had, like, two layers, the deterministic part and the agentic part. And we also applied the split for the credentials also for the two different layers.
- 11:59
So here's the thing about the capability list. The dangerous ones that could have write access, um, and trigger CI is something that we did not give the agent. Instead, we pushed, um, that functionality out to the deter- deterministic part because that's the thing that we can reason about and we can rely on that, um- You know, it
- 12:17
just does these kind of, kind of actions and we do not give, um, the agent these kinds of credentials 'cause that then fundamentity-- fundamentally limits the blast radius of when in case the agent gets, um, its prompt injected, prompt injected.
- 12:34
So that boundary really matters for the prompt injection case because you probably didn't see it in the screenshot earlier, but there was like 70,000 lines of code that were changed in that small PR.
- 12:43
Um, that's really like a lot of changes that come in just by bumping a couple of dependencies.
- 12:49
Um, and the attack surface is really, really wide. Um,
- 12:53
so what we did to mitigate that, I guess like prompt injection itself isn't solved, and we cannot really solve it. All we can do is just to limit the blast radius in case that happens.
- 13:02
Um, what we did is to do a little bit of prompt steering because we know what kind of directories or files contain untrusted, um, uncr- untrusted, um, information, untrusted context.
- 13:13
We just tell the agent, "Look, the vendor directory, just don't trust that," or the CI logs which live in that file or in that subdirectory, you know, be sure that you don't, you know, be an idiot.
- 13:25
Um, there's another thing that we did, um, which worked quite well, which is that we, um,
- 13:32
we essentially implemented end-to-end tests where we created a repository and sent Patchpilo- PatchPilot Edit to just work on it. Um, I guess that's what people call evals today. And then we just then ensure that it isn't, um, prompt injected.
- 13:49
So we have like a deprecated function in there, in the-- in our crafted repository, which tries to recruit the agent to do some malicious stuff, or we have a migration guide where a deprecated function, um, uh, points at and all of that.
- 14:01
So we try to like, you know, remediate these kinds of, um, issues that we know about, but still there are, um, unknown, um, injection vectors which we aren't aware of yet.
- 14:11
Um, so that's why, you know, we still have to pray a little bit, but at least we don't like build the whole system on, on hope.
- 14:20
Now, that's the bit that kept me awake at night. Um,
- 14:26
now sandboxes look great on a slide. You just draw a box, put the agent in it, and you feel secure, right? So the problem is that at some point, the agent really wants to, um, verify its own work.
- 14:38
When it works with Docker files, it wants to build a Docker container. It might also want to run a, a Docker container in order to figure out what package versions are available and so on.
- 14:48
So naturally, you give it that Docker socket. At that point, it's more or less game over for you, um, because the agent can then simply just spawn a privileged container escape out of it, and then, you know, read environment variables of other processes, read the memory of other processes, can plant SSH keys.
- 15:05
It's game over for you essentially at this point. We ran it like that in production at some point. Um, it didn't feel good. We moved off of that, um, and reevaluated all the other obvious options in like the Linux sphere, Linux bubble when it comes to like sandboxing.
- 15:21
There's a lot of technologies out there like Landlock, Bubblewrap, seccompb, notify, Fence, and a lot of options that we have for unprivileged Docker builds, um, Kaniko, uh, BuildKit, and, and what else.
- 15:32
But they don't really compose well with containers, and none of them really can contain a Docker socket or a Docker, um, daemon that runs on a host.
- 15:42
So let me share a design that we came up with, which is still like in its, in its infancy. Um,
- 15:48
it's the same pattern. You just draw a box, but instead of calling it a sandbox, it's just a microVM. In our case, we're using, um, using Firecracker to have like a proper isolation mechanism.
- 15:58
And then we put the agent in, we put the Docker socket in, and then the Docker socket is powered by its own kernel in this case.
- 16:06
Um, which is good because that really solves the issue with, with the, um, Docker daemon or the agent trying to escape the sandbox. In this case, everything is just cont- contained within that microVM, which is good.
- 16:19
There's another thing that is, um, worth mentioning in this case. Again, we have this two-tier architecture, these two layers, the agentic bit and the deterministic bit, and we also wanna apply network policies to these two worlds separately.
- 16:34
For the deterministic bit, we just know what kind of, um, um, network access it requires in order to function properly, and it's, it needs GitHub access and what else.
- 16:43
For the agent, we don't really know in advance. It kind of depends off on the kind of repository or language, um, it works on. When it uses Java, it needs like a completely different ecosystem it works with compared to Python or Go.
- 16:55
Um, so that's why we really want to, n-need to apply different network policies. Um, so that's what you can do. You can just set up a DNS and TCP forwarder inside that microVM.
- 17:05
But other than that, just, you know, cut it completely off from the host system, and then everything has to flow through this, um, through this vsock, which then, um, heads all the network packets to a post-process, which then applies the network policies to, um, to all the outgoing packets.
- 17:21
And then you can apply, you know, rules based on hostnames, based on target ports, CIDR ranges, whatever you like.
- 17:29
If we re- really wanna go wild, you can just, you know, set up a custom CA, plant it into the microVM, and then do all sorts of like TLS man-in-the-middle control,
- 17:38
which is really hard to do, especially when it comes to the Docker socket. But, um, we're not going to dive into this one yet.
- 17:46
So my take on agent sandboxing is this, that
- 17:50
the existing agent that we have today with Codex and Claude, they come with their own sandbox, but in my opinion, it's worthless, especially when you give it, um, a s- a Docker socket access.
- 18:01
It's just really, yeah, it's not going to be able to contain that.
- 18:07
O-other agents like OpenCode or Py, they just don't have a sandbox because it's not implemented, um, or it's just not there by design.
- 18:16
So my take is that you really have to create a environment for an agent- Where you can just put it in and give it everything that it needs, um, so it has, like, all the freedom to work on a particular issue that it's supposed to do.
- 18:28
Um, but there's still a gap. So the diagram that I've just shown you isn't something unique. It's just a VM with a little bit of plumbing in there. You can just wipe code it.
- 18:40
It's not, not a big deal, honestly. Um, you can even go downstar- downstairs to the vendor booths and just, you know, talk to the vendors there. You have, like, a lot of sandbox as a service that you can easily consume, some of which really lack in functionality, especially in that regards to, like, containing a Docker socket or
- 18:58
having a proper network access controls. That is still lacking, but it differs from vendor to vendor. I also recently saw the, um, MicroSandbox project,
- 19:08
um, which is now around for, I think, like, three or four months or so, maybe even longer, um, which really is-- would be my choice if I would build PatchPilot today again 'cause it comes with all the batteries included, network access controls, um, all that.
- 19:23
So keep that in mind if you really wanna build this. Um, it's an open source project. It ha- it has a community. It's currently funded by YC, um, so we really don't really know how it, how it goes.
- 19:34
In the next couple of months, we gotta see, um, if they're able to gather enough traction to, to keep the open source project afloat. Let's see.
- 19:42
So the gap isn't the tool doesn't exist. All the tools do exist, but most of them are still in the beta phase,
- 19:49
and there's still a big gap to, you know, getting actual enterprise traction and getting all the features, all the bells and whistles that you need in order to deploy it into a proper enterprise environment, and I think that's something that we need to work on.
- 20:02
Sure, now we got a sandbox. Cool. That's nice. But we still need, like, a lot of orchestration on top of it, which is something that you can take from a vendor.
- 20:10
There are also, like, a couple of open source project at the moment which are working on this. There's the Kubernetes, um, Agent Sandbox, uh, special interest group that's working on this.
- 20:19
There's, um, OpenSandbox, which also are working on this to integrate these kind of things. So, um, keep that in mind if you really want to, you know, contain an agent in a production environment.
- 20:26
It's not there yet. It's beta. It's very early in the, in the phase. We gotta see how it goes.
- 20:35
All right. If you take one thing from this, um, the blast radius of an agent is an architectural decision. We didn't, um, give the agent the credential that it needs, um, in order to, you know, trigger CI or push to GitHub or open a PR.
- 20:48
That's just simply not needed. You can just push that functionality, functionality into a deterministic layer, um, that kind of really limits the blast radius of an agent.
- 20:59
So that choice, what's dete- what's deterministic and what's agentic, that really is, you know, your security model in this case.
- 21:07
All right. Um, that was it for me. I just have, like, one last word, which is just an invitation to the community just to talk about the things that I've just mentioned.
- 21:17
Um, I think tomorrow there's a, a dedicated, uh, sandbox panel where a lot of talks are just around the sandbox thingy. And truly, I wanna know from you guys how you run agents in production, just to learn and to have a discussion about that in order to, you know, bring the community on and just, just figure it
- 21:32
out, um, all together. Thank you. [audience applauding] [outro music]