If we want them to do Knowledge Work, design them as Knowledge Agents — Benjamin Clavié, Mixedbread

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Designing Knowledge Agents Beyond the Coding-Agent Playbook

Benjamin Clavié explains why useful knowledge agents need search tools that preserve meaning, workflows that divide research, and models that understand how to use both.

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Ideas worth remembering

  • Coding-agent success benefits from stable searchable identifiers and tasks that humans have already narrowed. Open-ended knowledge agents must also discover what needs researching.

  • Optimize retrieval baselines and measure tool-call efficiency alongside accuracy. Similar answer quality can support very different operating costs.

  • Distinguish missing evidence from poor organization. Multimodal search can expose PDF content that text retrieval misses; searcher agents can turn that evidence into memos the answering agent can use.

  • A larger context window does not replace task decomposition. Agents need to understand their search primitives and organize findings before synthesis.

From finding information to making a judgment

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From finding information to making a judgment

Coding agents offer an appealing starting point for automating knowledge work: they search, interpret what they find, call tools, and carry out tasks. But Benjamin Clavié, who works on retrieval at Mixedbread, argues that their success can mislead designers working in other domains. Software engineering is one kind of knowledge work. Its search problems and task structure do not represent the whole category.

Clavié begins with the progression from early retrieval-augmented generation systems to agents that can act. A simple system could run a search and feed the results to a model, making it possible to ask questions about a PDF. Coding agents added a more capable loop: search for relevant information, understand it, use tools, and complete work. Legal research, financial analysis, and finding medication information also involve retrieving and using knowledge, but they ask the agent to operate across different kinds of evidence and ambiguity.

His working definition gives these systems a clear purpose. Knowledge work takes information as its main input and turns it into something actionable: a judgment, a decision, or findings that guide a person's next step. The input may be diffuse and ambiguous; the output must resolve enough of that ambiguity to be useful. A lawyer's findings on a case illustrate the distinction. Retrieving documents supplies material for the work, while deciding what those documents mean for the case produces the useful result.

Lawyers, academics, actuaries, software engineers, and researchers all do this kind of work. Their professions have developed workflows for finding information and organizing its interpretation. Clavié's proposal is to learn from those workflows when designing agents, rather than generalizing entirely from software engineering.

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Why a search for thirty days is harder than a search for a function

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Why a search for thirty days is harder than a search for a function

Code gives search tools unusually useful clues. Identifiers, file paths, keywords, and method definitions provide relatively stable strings that an agent can search literally. These references can change, but they often persist long enough to connect a task to the relevant implementation. Grep works well in this setting because the code itself contains searchable names for many of the things the agent needs to find.

The human also does more preparation than the comparison usually acknowledges. A coding-agent request commonly concerns a feature or a ticket. Someone has already narrowed the problem and identified a desired change. Clavié contrasts that with asking an agent to discover a new programming paradigm and then implement it in an application. That much broader request exposes how much ordinary coding-agent performance depends on the task arriving in a manageable form.

Outside code, the same string can point to several different concepts. An agent searching for thirty days might find a deadline, a grace period, or a retention rule. It might even retrieve a medication schedule while researching a contract. Matching the words does not establish that the result answers the question. The agent must understand what the duration governs and whether the surrounding domain fits the user's intent.

That intent can require research before the agent even knows all the questions it must ask. To determine whether a rule applies in a particular domain, it may need to find relevant international norms and then establish whether their conditions hold in the case at hand. Those dependencies are not necessarily listed in the original request. The agent must discover them, search for the missing information, and interpret its applicability. This is the extra work hidden by a comparison with a narrowly specified coding ticket.

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Better tools change how work gets organized

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Better tools change how work gets organized

Clavié uses the history of knowledge work to describe two developments. Tools for organizing information grew from writing and library catalogues through bibliographies and library classification to search engines. Organizations grew beyond reliance on a single gifted expert toward institutions and specialized firms. These are broad historical illustrations of a design problem: as knowledge grows, people need ways both to locate it and to divide the work of understanding it.

A hospital makes the organizational side concrete. Doctors, senior doctors, nurse practitioners, nurses, and healthcare assistants specialize in different levels of tasks. The organization distributes work rather than expecting one person to perform every step. Clavié treats that division as an optimization alongside improvements to the tools those people use.

The two developments feed each other. New knowledge creates demand for better tools. Better tools allow new workflows and roles, but workers must learn what the tools do. Someone accustomed to visiting a library needs to understand that a search engine accepts a typed query and returns information without a physical visit. More effective workers then produce more knowledge, renewing the need for tools and organization. Adding a tool without changing how people work leaves part of that improvement unused.

Tools also change which tasks are worth attempting. Clavié imagines finding a manuscript in an uncatalogued library taking two or three weeks, compared with ten minutes using a catalogue. These are illustrative timings, but the economic mechanism matters: a costly search reserves the information for urgent needs; a cheap search makes it practical to investigate smaller questions. Multimodal search applies the same reasoning to PDF archives. Information that people would otherwise leave untouched can become useful when searching it costs less.

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Tune the baseline, then measure the cost of reaching an answer

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Tune the baseline, then measure the cost of reaching an answer

Clavié next turns to a bounded deep-research benchmark with specific questions over a large text collection. The comparison includes optimized and unoptimized BM25 retrieval. BM25 is a way to perform lexical search, and its practical performance depends on the implementation and tuning. His instruction to optimize baselines follows directly: a weak configuration does not establish the limits of the retrieval method.

The poorly optimized tool lands near 60% accuracy. Clavié considers that too unreliable to keep using: someone who must repeatedly check or redo the answer may prefer to perform the work themselves. Better tools move performance through the seventies and eighties toward roughly 90%. At the upper end, he treats small accuracy differences as run variance rather than a compelling reason to choose one system.

The more useful distinction is reaching 90.2% accuracy with 20% fewer tool calls. A system that finds adequate evidence sooner can spend less effort searching and processing results while retaining similar answer quality. Clavié connects that reduction to token use and resource costs, and contrasts workflows requiring 25 calls with ones requiring 8. The call counts explain why efficiency can determine adoption, although a percentage reduction in calls alone does not establish the same percentage reduction in total cost: that also depends on what each call and model turn consumes.

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The law-firm model: frame the case, delegate research, assemble the answer

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The law-firm model: frame the case, delegate research, assemble the answer

A bounded text benchmark still leaves out much of an open-ended knowledge task. Clavié returns to the example of a law firm. The client brings a situation to a partner, who identifies the facts, likely consequences, and areas of law that require investigation. The partner's first job is to turn the client's problem into researchable questions.

Paralegals and assistants then research those questions using tools they know how to use. They return memos and notes. The partner relies on that work, may investigate a clarification, and assembles the response. The workflow separates framing, evidence gathering, and synthesis while allowing the final decision-maker to ask for more information.

This division explains what a knowledge-agent architecture must add. In an ordinary coding request, the user may already have converted a broad need into a ticket. A client with an open-ended problem has not necessarily done that preparation. Clavié argues that the agent must take responsibility for decomposition, then assign research to subagents rather than expecting the answering agent to perform every search itself.

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Separate the retrieval ceiling from the orchestration gap

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Separate the retrieval ceiling from the orchestration gap

A PDF-based enterprise benchmark illustrates why both changes matter. It provides PDFs and OCR text versions. With BM25, Clavié reports that a human and a model reach the same performance ceiling, even when the human can keep searching. His interpretation is that the tool limits access to the needed information. Equal scores under that restriction do not establish equal reasoning ability.

Multimodal retrieval raises that ceiling by working with the PDF's visual content, including tables, instead of depending entirely on OCR text. Clavié reports an accuracy increase when the agent uses Mixedbread's multimodal search tool. The mechanism is access to evidence that a text-only representation may fail to preserve adequately. Better reasoning cannot compensate for information the search process never makes available.

Yet the improved tool leaves a substantial gap: the agent scores 88.9%, while the human scores 99.4%. The agent can inspect results and continue working over multiple turns; Clavié recalls a budget of about ten turns. Access to better evidence helps, but an iterative search loop by itself does not reproduce the human result.

Mixedbread's search-agent approach applies the law-firm division of work. The main agent breaks the problem into aspects and writes queries for them. Searcher agents investigate those aspects independently and return short memos. The main agent then answers from the organized findings. This gives the answering agent an intermediate research product instead of making it manage all the raw searching alongside synthesis.

Clavié reports a 3.5-percentage-point accuracy improvement and describes it in terms of an oracle gap: the distance between a search system's performance and performance with ideal evidence. He characterizes the remaining gap as falling from about ten points to about six, or roughly 40%. That rounded figure should not be read as an exact calculation from the stated scores; a 3.5-point gain against the stated 10.5-point human–agent gap closes about one-third. The supported lesson is still substantial: changing how research is organized improves performance even after the retrieval tool has improved.

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Teach the agent its search tools and keep context organized

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Clavié closes by asking designers to borrow from established knowledge professions. Librarians, paralegals, legal firms, and medical organizations have developed ways to divide information work. The benchmark examples give a practical reason to study those arrangements: better tools remove one kind of ceiling, while better organization can reduce the gap that remains. Tool choice should respond to an observed limitation rather than become an end in itself.

The tools and agents also need to be designed together. Clavié observes that agents may default to grep-style queries because grep is common in their training material. That habit can be useful for code and poorly suited to a question whose evidence lives in a PDF table. Grep, BM25, and semantic search are different search primitives; the model or harness must understand what each can retrieve and how to formulate a useful query for it. Searching extracted PDF text remains possible, as the earlier OCR example shows, but it does not provide the same access as multimodal retrieval.

Finally, context is a finite and costly resource. Clavié uses a hypothetical hundred-million-token context window to argue that expanding it would still leave the problem of organizing a large body of legal knowledge. A larger window does not decide which facts matter, discover the question's dependencies, or turn evidence into a useful answer. His proposed architecture gives those jobs explicit places: a main agent decomposes the task, searchers gather and organize knowledge, and the main agent synthesizes their findings. Search becomes a designed workflow rather than a succession of calls left to one increasingly crowded context.

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    Okay, so hi everyone. I'm gonna give the quickest introduction to myself. I'm Ben Clavié. I work at Mixedbread, where we do retrieval. I'm French, and I live in Tokyo. And today I'm gonna talk, talk to you about the fact that agents should do knowledge work, and so we should design them like knowledge workers. Like, we should design them like Knowledge Agents and not coding agents, and I'm going to explain the difference and why I think that's important. It's a bit of a hot tech talk, but let's start now. So the first thing is, like, first agents give us fun trivia, and I'm

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    talking, like, early agents, twenty-twenty to agents, back when all you had was, you know, RAG, but agents couldn't even do tool call back then. So all you had is, like, you had an if statement, you did search, you got, like, cool, you could talk to your PDF. That was the very first form of agentic work. It was not very useful. We're not gonna talk about that for long. What came next was programming agents, and that's been all the rage. Like, once agents started being able to search, actually properly search, actually properly understand things, carry tasks out, call tools,

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    we started designing coding agents, and coding agents are a big thing. I don't think there's anyone in this room that does not use coding agents. We all use CodeCard, Codex, et cetera. And that's a form of knowledge work. But agents were not knowledge workers at the time. Like, agents were coding agents. And now they're becoming knowledge worker. And by knowledge worker, I mean that knowledge work is a big superset. And kind of every workflow you've thought of before is a form of Knowledge Agents just because of the nature of knowledge. So it's like, if you have an agent

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    that's a lawyer that's looking for legal documents, if you go financial agent, if you're looking for, you know, medication information, like you've got a lot of people on Twitter that try to do those self-diagnosis, and you've got just a lot of medical usage. All of that is coding agents. We're getting an agent. It's trying to find-- Sorry, Knowledge Agent. It's trying to find knowledge, trying to make use of knowledge. And coding is part of that, of course, and even the small RAG bit that we talked about, like, in the first slide is part of that. But that's a very, very small proportion

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    of the actual full thing. Like, there's so much more to knowledge than any one domain. And what even is knowledge work? 'Cause I'm saying that it's important. They do knowledge work. Coding is knowledge work. And I think there's two ways to define it, in my opinion. One of them is knowledge work is work where your main input is information. Like, your main input is not an actual physical material. It's not something that you can touch. It's knowledge. It's information. And the nature of knowledge work is that you process this

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    information, which is by nature very ambiguous, very diffuse. And the main output you get from that is something actionable. It's a judgment. It's a decision. It's some-- If it's a lawyer, you're gonna get, you know, their findings on your case, and they might plead for you. You're going to get an actual actionable thinking item, like something still not tangible, but that exists. That's knowledge. There's also a tautological definition which makes sense here, that if you need search, it's a knowledge problem, and if it's a knowledge problem, you

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    need search. So it's very self-defined. And in the real world, that's basically most of the work that we see in the service economy is a form of knowledge work. Like lawyers, knowledge workers. Academics, knowledge workers. Actuaries, knowledge workers. Software engineers, researchers, also knowledge workers. And the fact that there's so much knowledge work in society has contributed to, like, an ever-improving structuring of knowledge work. Like, there's actually very, very well-defined workflows for how we should do knowledge work, for how knowledge works in

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    itself, and how we evolve that. But so far, agentics kind of focus on the special case, and that's try to generalize from it, and that special case is coding and software engineering. And the thing is, code is knowledge, but not all knowledge is code. And code's a very, very unique form of knowledge because it has very durable cues. Like on-- in a code base, there's gonna be a lot of references to, like, an identifier or a file or a path. And okay, when we vibe code, that can change, but most of the time it's not going to change all that

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    much. Like, all the things are, like, very, very durable. Then you've got that surface obviously is, like, now in grepable. Like, there's keywords, there's method definition, there's a lot of things that by definition you can grep in code. And the task-- And this one's actually very important, and we don't talk about it a lot, but people are like, "Oh, why is grep good enough for programming?" Or, "Why can an agent do programming?" And then you're telling me it can do, like, deep research for a legal question. And one of those is because we don't realize it, but, like, when we interact with coding

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    agents, we are giving them extremely narrow tasks. Like, we're not actually expecting that much from them. Like, everything's always kind of about a feature or about, like, a given ticket. Like, there's a task at hand. You're not going to tell the agent, like, "Discover a new programming paradigm and then implement it in this new app." I don't know what it's gonna do. Good luck. But in knowledge work, that's often the case. Like, first of all, you don't have those durable cues. Like, the meaning is always implicit. And more importantly, the same cue can mean a lot of different things. We don't

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    have function definitions in knowledge work. Like, if you see thirty days, if your agent's looking for thirty days, is it a deadline? Is it a grace period? Is it a retention rule? Is it even in the same domain? Like, are you searching for thirty days on a contract and you're getting medication? There's a lot of contextual information, yeah. But more importantly, the search starts from an intent. Like, even if you're doing, again, legal example, if you're asking about, like, a specific rule that you want to apply to a specific domain, you're going to need to look at the international norms that apply, and then do they apply in

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    this case? There's a lot of conditional information that is not predefined in the task. Like, that's all up for the agent to find. And so non-code knowledge is very contextual and meaning-driven, which is much harder than code. And that's led to the fact that none of what I'm saying is new. Like, people have been doing knowledge work for a very, very long time, and that's resulted in, like, two endless loops. So you have a tool loop, which is... At the start, we were, we were, like, talking. Then at some point, some guy was like, "We

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    should write stuff down." Then in Alexandria, we had the Pinakes, which was the curator of the Library of Alexandria, came up with an idea that maybe we should have a way to catalog all of the books we have. Then we developed writing, then we developed bibliographies, then we ended up with, like, the current version of the, like, Dewey system for libraries, and nowadays we have search engines. But we also had an organization loop, which is joint, but also disjoint from the tool one, which is it used to be the one gifted expert. Like,

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    we've all heard of the polymath of the past, the person who just knew everything about one domain or all domains, and you just went to them if you had information. But that doesn't scale, so we ended up with, like, monasteries, which were like guardians of knowledge, and then we had universities, and then we ended up creating the bureaucracies, and now we ended up creating the modern organization of work where we have very specialized firms. Like at hospitals, you've got the doctor, you've got the senior doctor, you've got the nurse practitioner, the nurses, the healthcare assistants, and all of them kind of like specialize on different levels of tasks, and that's

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    a really good form of optimization. But the thing is that it's actually just the one loop. Like, I'm showing two loops here, but they're actually just the one loop, which is we have new knowledge, and new knowledge means that we need better tools, and better tools mean that we end up creating new workflows, new roles, like we need people that are trained to use those tools, people that understand what the new tool does. If you have a guy that knows how to go to the library and you're like, "Okay, use Google," you need the knowledge of what Google is. Like, that person needs to be taught

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    that's a search engine. You can just type stuff in it. There's no need to physically go there. And that means you retrain. You get new knowledge workers who are more efficient, so they create more knowledge, so we need new tools, and so on and so on. So both the tool loop and the organizational loop are actually just this one self-optimizing loop that kind of like triggers the other endlessly.

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    And the thing about, like, tooling and optimization is that they're not neutral add-ons. Like, I said that we keep optimizing tools and things come up and we create new things out of those tools, but that's never actually a neutral thing. Like, tooling is not just, "Oh, my search is 5% better." The fact that we have a tool or the fact that we don't have a tool is what decides if a task-- not if the task is possible, because you can do things without the right tool, but if the task is actually scalable and can be carried out cheaply, because something being cheap means it can scale. And it's like, yes, of

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    course, if you go to the Library of Alexandria before the Pinakes, you can find your manuscript somewhere. Like, whatever you're looking for is there. It's probably going to take two or three weeks. So you're going to really, really, really need that knowledge. But if there's a library catalog, it's gonna take you ten minutes, and now, like, it's way easier to just, "Oh, okay, I need to know something more about this, so I'm gonna search for it." Likewise, if you have a map directory or if you even have a map in the first place, which in itself is a tool for information, then exploring the world is a much better idea. Like, you're not gonna rely on

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    randomly discovering America on your way to the Indies. You know, like, you know where you're going. And likewise, if you have, like, a multimodal search platform, then you can search millions of PDF in a way that we couldn't before. So now there's a lot of use cases where you are like, "Oh, it's in the archives. I'm not gonna touch that," that become actually useful.

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    And in practice, this kind of looks like that, and I'm getting into the more technical stuff here, which is on a simple deep research task. So this is the Brass Compass leaderboard, which is made to evaluate the quality of search tools on a very bounded deep research task. You have two hundred thousand documents and you have, like, specific queries. Yo talked about this this morning, and it's a really useful benchmark to, like, analyze queries. And what we see is that, like, okay, a bad tool. So that's the thing that people often rant about. You will see that there's two BM25 here. There's two,

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    like, optimized and unoptimized, and that's because quite often people will tell you BM25 is not great. And the reason they'll tell you BM25 is not great is because there's not one BM25. There's hundreds of them. It's a way to do lexical search. You should always optimize your baselines. You should always, like, optimize what you're getting. And so what you see here is, like, a badly optimized tool is useless. Like 60% accuracy. You're not going to trust someone that's right 60% of the time. You're just going to do it yourself. When you start optimizing the tools, you can see we go up to seventy,

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    eighty, and then the best, the actual best is Hybrid Harness. It gets to ninety. But that's maybe not the most interesting part because we start kind of plateauing at one point. Like the jump from 88 to 9.8 to 90.2 is in run variance. That doesn't matter. What matters here, however, is that 90.2% accuracy, you reach it with 20% fewer tool calls, and that's huge because in practice, that's 20% fewer tokens, 20% less fewer resources that you use. That's basically 20% free

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    cash. And if you compare it to the unoptimized baseline, you're spending, like, 5% of what you were spending in the first place. So the tool is actually what makes the task worth doing. Nobody would keep using that tool if it takes 25 calls. But if it takes 8 calls, we're like, "Oh yeah, cool. That's a workflow I can introduce."

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    And the second part, which goes with tooling and I think is just as important because Brass Compass in the previous slide is interesting, but it's easy. It's a hundred thousand documents. It's just text. It's just the one question. And it's not really that open-ended. It's just a bit convoluted. But when you're actually doing, like, real-life knowledge work, there is that workflow that you see that I tried to doodle, which is you have a client. They come to the big shot. They come to the lawyer. That's the partner of the agency. And they're like, "Okay, this is my situation. That's my problem." And they meet together. But

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    then what the partner does is they're not going to be the ones doing all the legal research. They're not going to be the ones, like, doing every single step of the problem. What they'll do is kind of understand that, like, okay, this person is, has this problem. That's gonna cause them that. Those are the facts. I need the relevant laws to this, that, and so on aspects. And then they've got paralegals, they've got assistants, and the assistants are going to be doing this research. They're going to be using, like, the same sort of tools they've been trained to use, and they're going to produce memo and notes, and then they're gonna give that back to the big shots that

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    maybe they research, like, one clarification point, but they mostly rely on what their searcher agents, if you want, like the assistants have found for them. And that's the response that you're gonna get. And that's echoing the point I made before, which is in code, when you're using code code, you're kind of doing that work yourself. You've already broken down the query, you know, like, you know what you want to do. You've got a linear ticket, you've got something that you're giving the agent. In the real world, you've got a client that's got a very open-ended problem, and you need to break it down yourself, and your agent needs to break it down itself, and then needs to use sub-agents

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    that do this research.

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    And this is how better tools and organization work together because this one is MatQA, which is another form of knowledge benchmark. MatQA is something that Hugging Face and Snowflake jointly released, and it's PDF-based enterprise task. It's got PDFs, and it's got OCI, OCR versions of the PDF. And the current state of the leaderboard really show that, like, both tools and organizations are necessary. And you can see that in the fact that with BM25, however optimized it gets, the

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    human and Gemini 3 reached the same ceiling. And that doesn't mean that Gemini 3 is as good as a human. That means that even a human cannot get the right information given unlimited searches with BM25. So you have the tool ceiling, and you need better tools to go forward. That's the, like, tool optimization part of the loop. Thankfully, we've got better tools. You know, we've got, we've got models that can handle PDFs. We've got Vision. We don't need to rely on OCR text. And what we see with that is that we get another jump, which is Gemini and the Mixedbread

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    search tool, which is fully multimodal, so it can read the PDF. You get the tables, you get all that nice stuff in your search, and that gets us a big jump in accuracy. But the interesting part about, like, that doesn't work. The-- Well, that doesn't work. That does work, but that doesn't work as well as we would like because why is my agent getting eighty-eight point nine if the human's getting ninety-nine point four? Like, that's ten percent I'm leaving on the table here. But that-- I don't understand. That's an agent. It gets, I think, ten turns in the benchmark, so it's a fully agentic system. It gets to think about its results, and yet it's missing

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    performance. And that's where we introduce the Mixedbread search agent, which is exactly that breaking down of work we saw earlier, where we basically tell the, the main agent, the one answering the question, being like, "Okay, that's, that's a big topic. There is, like, thousands of PDFs. You're not gonna, like, search yourself. Just please break down the problem for me. Please write queries about the aspects that you think are important to answer the actual query." And we get searcher that go off on their own, and they find the right results, and they bring you, like, a little memo to your agent, and then your agent actually answers that. And

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    that gets the accuracy up by three point five points. And that doesn't sound like a lot, but I like to think of it as, like, an oracle gap. And the oracle gap is the difference between perfect documents and your search system. And the oracle gap here is about, about ten points before using the agents, and it goes down to six points after using the agents. So that means that we have about a forty percent reduction in mistakes. Like, the gap between humans and agents goes down by forty percent just by, like, having a better architecture to search for it.

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    And I think this is the end of my slide 'cause I'm running out of time, and that's perfect 'cause that's my takeaway slide. And what I want you to, like, get from this talk is that we know how to design better knowledge work for humans, and AI agents really benefit from this pattern. Like, we have designed this. We know how to do this. Humans have worked on this for centuries. Like, people have always needed more knowledge. The empires used to have librarians. We have paralegal. We've got legal firms. We know exactly how legal, the legal industry has figured out paralegal. The medical industry has

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    figured it out. And none of it looks like programming. Programming is a very different system because it's a very specific use case, and we should really learn from the knowledge world to know how to design agents that will do work for the knowledge world. And then you must not, like, overfit on tools because tools don't exist as a way to do things by themselves. Tools exist as a way to overcome ceilings. You want a better tool when you see that you're hitting a ceiling, that your performance is not where you want it to be. So we design better tools to overcome the

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    ceilings. And more importantly, the tools need to be co-designed with the agents. Like, the agents need to know how to use tools because one thing you would often see is agents will try to write grep queries because grep's everywhere in the training data. BM25, they will end the query in the data, and that's not always what you need. Sometimes you need semantic search of a PDF, and you can't grep a PDF. You can't BM25 a PDF. You need to, like, write a better query. So it's very important that your agentic harnesses or even your agentic models know that they have got more than one tools, and it's

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    about primitives. Grep's a primitive. BM25 is a primitive. And semantic search is a primitive. And all of those need to be, like, very well-trained. Like, the models need to know about all of them. And the last one is that the right orchestration of search will get you much better results because context is a finite resource. And even if we get to a model that's got, like, a hundred-million token context, A, that's gonna cost you a lot of money, and B, that's still nothing. You're not even getting half of, like, one state's legal

  37. 17:12

    code, let alone the US, let alone international law, let alone specialized course, et cetera. So you need to have a way to break down your task, and you need to have your orchestrator or your main agents and people that can actually organize the knowledge for them.

  38. 17:26

    And yeah, cool. So we've got two minutes for questions.

  39. 17:34

    Thank you.